{"id":18234,"date":"2015-11-07T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2015-11-07T06:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/sugar-land-bible-church.local\/sermon\/5-questions-answers-answering-islam-conference\/"},"modified":"2024-01-30T15:09:27","modified_gmt":"2024-01-30T21:09:27","slug":"5-questions-answers-answering-islam-conference","status":"publish","type":"sermon","link":"https:\/\/slbc.org\/es\/sermon\/5-questions-answers-answering-islam-conference\/","title":{"rendered":"5. Questions & Answers – Answering Islam Conference"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"featured_media":0,"template":"","book":[146],"series_event":[458],"sermon_service_type":[541],"speaker":[6],"class_list":["post-18234","sermon","type-sermon","status-publish","hentry","book-none","series_event-answering-islam-conference","sermon_service_type-special-event","speaker-dr-andy-woods","no-post-thumbnail"],"acf":{"sermon_title":"5. Questions & Answers - Answering Islam Conference","sermon_date":"20151107","sermon_month":"11","sermon_year":"2015","sermon_notes":"","sermon_slides":"","sermon_mp3":3135,"sermon_id":"117152152187","series_or_event":458,"service_type":[541],"speaker":6,"books_of_the_bible":146,"chapter_and_verse":"","sermon_transcript":"Andy Woods\r\nAnswering Islam Conference\r\nQuestions and Answers\r\nAndy Woods--Shahram Hadian\r\n\r\nAndy Woods: Let\u2019s take a seat real quick. Let\u2019s go ahead and have a seat and there were a lot of really good questions submitted so I kind of divided up the piles into the Shahram pile and the Andy pile, and Gomer\u2019s pile too. [laugher] Shahram might want to kind of dovetail on this because I\u2019m going to answer a couple of questions and he\u2019s going to answer a couple of questions and we\u2019re going to kind of go back and forth here and see how this goes.\r\n\r\nBut there were a lot of questions submitted about how to you approach a Muslim with the gospel type questions. And Shahram obviously knows Islam, much better than I do, but I would simply say this, kind of by way of summary: when you really boil everything down to its basics there\u2019s only two proposed plans of salvation. Either man is trying to do something to earn favor from God, you know, he\u2019s climbing up some kind of ladder through good works, which is what Islam basically teaches, your good works have to outweigh your bad works to be admitted into eternity. And that\u2019s basically what you get in any religion that\u2019s a non-biblical religion. And Christianity, of course, in that is A. God will never accept you because Isaiah 64:6 says that our works of righteousness are as filthy rags to Him. [Isaiah 64:6, \u201cFor all of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous deeds are like a filthy garment; and all of us wither like a leaf, and our iniquities, like the wind, take us away.\u201d]\r\n\r\nSo as long as we\u2019re in a mindset where we\u2019re trying to do something to merit God\u2019s favor we can never gain God\u2019s acceptance. And also in that works oriented mindset there\u2019s never any real assurance of salvation. I mean he mentioned it, most Muslims really don\u2019t know if they\u2019re really going to heaven or not so they\u2019re always in a state of fear. And how different Christianity is where it\u2019s not man trying to climb up to God, it\u2019s God reaching down to man in the person of Jesus Christ.\r\n\r\nAnd of course, Jesus\u2019 final words on the cross were \u201cIt is\u201d what? \u201cfinished!\u201d and that\u2019s a translation from the Greek word tetelestai [tetelestai] which means paid in full; tetelestai is in the perfect tense in Greek which basically means a one-time action in the past with ongoing benefits. So when you\u2019re dealing with a Muslim, just like when you\u2019re dealing with anybody else in a works orientation you want to focus on the singular death of Jesus Christ, and you receive that as a gift or you can\u2019t come to God. And in the mind of God there\u2019s only one way to receive a gift and that\u2019s by what? Faith, because Romans 4:5 says, \u201cTo the one who does not work but\u201d what? \u201cbelieves.\u201d And so, you know, I\u2019ve had a couple of opportunities to witness to Muslims and that\u2019s kind of, even though I\u2019m not an expert on Islam and don\u2019t know all the ins and outs of it the way Shahram does, that\u2019s sort of where I spent my time focusing. And I was actually in the back of a limousine and the driver was Muslim and he could see I was studying my Bible and we got into a religious conversation and he started talking to me about all his works and all these things he has to do and you know, I kind of sat there listening to him politely until he finally let me talk. And by the way, he said he got all this from Jabril, and I couldn\u2019t really understand through his accent who Jabril was, but then I finally figured out it was Gabriel. And you know, how Mohammed got this stuff from Gabriel, dah, dah dah dah dah.\r\n\r\nAnd I said well, let me tell you how it works with my religion, so-called. In my system Jesus did everything for me, all these works that you\u2019re doing he already did for me and He paid the price for all of my failures. And all I do is receive what He has done as a free gift. And he kind of paused for a second, and then he said, well, I think I like yours better. [laughter] So I think that\u2019s the way to do it. But anyway, you want to add something to that.\r\n\r\nShahram: Well, no, again, as I encouraged, and Andy\u2019s right, with Muslims, as I said, because you know, surprisingly there\u2019s a lot of Muslims that don\u2019t like the idea of having to lose their life and so they are always in a works situation; they are always trying to be a good Muslim. And I would say to some extent that was my family, you know, kind of our experience. So it is really important for what I understand in the sharing of the gospel that nothing I view can accomplish reaching God. It actually is a relief, it actually is freedom to understand because I knew growing up that I was really not a good Muslim. In fact, I would say that probably my early 20\u2019s\u2026 I became a Christian when I was 28, probably in my early 20\u2019s I would say I was becoming more agnostic, really, because I was witnessing what Islam was doing in Iran, and the more it was coming to me that if that\u2019s God I don\u2019t want anything to do with it, you know, God? And so praise God that that wasn\u2019t the true God. And so the gospel was shared, but that\u2019s very powerful and that\u2019s why when I say Muslims really are under a tremendous bondage because of the fact that they are works oriented, they have no guarantee of salvation, and so they are really hungry, if they\u2019re honest, for that path. And so I just echo what you said and sharing that. So you want to\u2026\r\n\r\nWell, a couple of questions that were asked, I thought I\u2019d tackle a couple of these together, let\u2019s see, there\u2019s a couple of questions about global\u2026 well, first of all, someone asked a question about do Sunni\u2019s and Shiites believe in Sharia Law? The answer is yes. In fact, in The Reliance of the Traveler, which is accepted, remember, this book is basically a thousand years of case law of Sharia, accepted as Islamic law, put together, and it addresses, even though it\u2019s a Sunni source, this one, but it addresses Shiites in here, and it basically says to Shiites that we do agree on the majors of Islam. So in Iran the governor of Iran is established under Sharia law. And so on the majors of Islam they have a commonality. As I said, there are subtle differences when it comes to the textual aspect between Sunnis and Shiites.\r\n\r\nThe other question was do you see any kind of relationship between globalism and one-world government and Sharia law and Islam? And there was another question that talked about some of the globalists, like George Soros and the Muslim agenda. And we were talking to some people during the break that you see this connection between communism, between the globalist and between the Islamist, and there is a sort of behind the scenes cooperation working together. I don\u2019t think it\u2019s that the globalists want to become Muslims necessarily, it\u2019s the fact that I think they think they can control the Muslims and use the Muslims in their agenda, because they have to have control and I don\u2019t think there\u2019s anything better on the planet for control than Islam, as far as how it controls. Right? So there is a commonality but I don\u2019t think it\u2019s that, you know, some of these globalists want to become Muslims, however, the question I guess is going to be in those last days which one is going to elevate? Which one is going to rise? Which one is going to be standing? Is it going to be the globalists or the Muslims, or maybe both?\r\n\r\nBut don\u2019t be surprised at the cooperation, because they\u2019re working hand in hand. I\u2019ve even gotten that question about Obama or about others. Well, they tend to be socialist communists but then they claim to be Muslims; how can the two go hand in hand? Remember, Islam is a totalitarian system. Fascism, Communism, it\u2019s a totalitarian system. So they very much work together; they very much have common ground. So that\u2019s not a surprise and if you look at the United Nations it is very Islamized because of the influence of the OIC, of these Islamic countries. Remember a lot of money is at stake, a lot of power is at stake, and yes, it is about, as somebody said here, is it about destroying America, YES! It is about destroying America, they must bring down Europe, they must bring down America, they must bring down the sovereignty of these individual nations.\r\n\r\nAndy Woods: Because my talk dealt with Gog, the Gog Magog invasion I got a few on that. Why do some very good Bible scholars say Gomer is Germany? And the reason largely people do stuff like that is they\u2019re\u2026 it\u2019s\u2026 I\u2019m trying to collect my thoughts here, it\u2019s taking similar sounding words and putting them together, whether they belong together or not, and that\u2019s really no way to do biblical exegesis. But the other reason is they are kind of looking at the newspapers, so Adolf Hitler came from Germany, he\u2019d be a pretty good antichrist. Gomer kind of sounds like Germany or German, so let\u2019s just connect the two together.\r\n\r\nAnd this is one of the reasons that our side of the ledger has been so criticized on the grounds of newspaper exegesis, where we look at the headlines and read it back into the Bible. There\u2019s nothing wrong with looking at the headlines in the newspaper as long as we look at the Bible first. We need to be getting our ideas from the Bible, not taking our ideas to the Bible. And that\u2019s why I was careful with identifying Gomer as Galatia based on the writings of Josephus. Josephus tells us where the Gomerites settled in his Antiquities. And once you do that analysis and figure out who all of these players are, you know, then it\u2019s appropriate to look at the headlines and see how they fit, but let\u2019s start with the Bible first.\r\n\r\nAnother question deals with the issue of why doesn\u2019t Israel get it? The question asks: why are they so swept off guard by this battle that\u2019s coming, this Gog\/Magog invasion? And the answer to that is they are a nation in blindness as I speak. Now, there are individual Jews that get saved periodically in the church age and it\u2019s wonderful when that happens, but that\u2019s not the norm. Paul is very clear in Romans 11, 2 Corinthians 3, a lot of other verses that the nation of Israel is in a state of blindness. In fact, Paul is grieved by that. In fact, Paul says if I could be cut off from Christ so that my Jewish brethren could be won to Christ I would take that option. It\u2019s an astounding statement.\r\n\r\nAnd you can\u2019t really expect spiritually blind people to have things figured out eschatologically. So they\u2019re going to hitch their wagon to the wrong horse, if I can put it that way. They\u2019re going to hitch their wagon to the antichrist, because when you ask a Jew today how come you don\u2019t believe Jesus or Yeshua is the Messiah, and I\u2019ve asked a lot of Jews this question, the answer is well, there\u2019s no shalom. Now shalom means peace in Hebrew and when they use the word peace they\u2019re not using it the way we as evangelical Christians use the word. When we talk about peace we talk about peace with God, peace in the heart, those types of issues. They\u2019re talking about politics.\r\n\r\nAnd so they look at their own nation in its perplexity and all of the problems they\u2019re having and how they\u2019re being bullied every which way and they say how could Jesus be the Messiah if our nation is in this condition? So God knocks us down so we look up. And that\u2019s how He worked in all of our lives and the nation of Israel is in for a major knocking down. That\u2019s the point of the tribulation period. God is bringing on them discipline. But the discipline that He\u2019s bringing upon them should not be confused with the fact that He\u2019s severing His ties from them. See, that\u2019s the error of replacement theology. It\u2019s just like your own children, right? Whom the Lord loves the Lord what? chastens. In fact, the chastening is proof that He owns us. Right? I\u2019ve never disciplined the neighbor\u2019s kids (I have thought about it on occasion) [laughter] but\u2026 I\u2019ve never done that, but you discipline your own children because you love them and whether anybody likes it or not or replacement theologians agree with it or not, Israel, and I\u2019ll talk a little bit about this in my session tomorrow, is the only nation in the history of mankind that has a covenant with God. It\u2019s called the Abrahamic Covenant, and God cannot abrogate that covenant; it\u2019s impossible for God to lie. So eventually they, the remnant, will come to faith, through a time of discipline and He will fulfill every single promise he\u2019s ever made to the physical descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.\r\n\r\nHow does Islam fit in with the last days prophecy of a counterfeit Christianity since it does not seem to be reasonable Christianity? Well, the reason Chrislam is taking off today is because we\u2019re living in an era of watered down Christianity, where it\u2019s really not true Christianity, it\u2019s what Paul called in 2 Timothy a form of godliness but denies the power thereof. It\u2019s in this culture spirituality is in, God talk is in, but being a Bible believer, a literal interpreter of the Bible, that\u2019s out. And so the type of Christianity that\u2019s being advocated today is really not Christianity. So as long as we have a spirituality that is not anchored in the Bible you can mix it and merge it with anything you want, including Islam, including this whole idea of Chrislam, you know, as if the two ideas go together at all. They don\u2019t. The more literal you get with the Bible, and I\u2019m looking forward to Shahram\u2019s presentation tomorrow.\r\n\r\nAnd one legal question, I do have a legal background, don\u2019t hold that against me, it says the U.S. does not have a treaty with Iran. A treaty requires a congressional approval. And that\u2019s absolutely correct, there should be two-thirds approval from the Senate, if I remember right, to have a treaty. So our deal with Iran is really not a treaty at all, it was the Corker legislation that got passed, where we were able to enter into this agreement with Iran without going through what the Constitution requires. And so because the Republicans went along with Obama they basically gave away their treaty power on this. And I totally agree with the question that it\u2019s not a legitimate treaty under the Constitution.\r\n\r\nAnd you know, I like the way the talk show host, Mark Levin describes this, we\u2019re basically living in a post-constitutional republic, where the dominant theory that they\u2019re taught in law school, and I\u2019m a graduate of a law school, is that the Constitution is a living breathing evolving document which changes from one Supreme Court opinion to the next. So what is important is not the text of the Constitution in this paradigm what\u2019s important is what the judge has just said. And we saw that just recently, didn\u2019t we, in June with the gay rights decision. All of a sudden there\u2019s this right for gay marriage in the Constitution, despite the fact that nobody ever saw that right in the Constitution before.\r\n\r\nWell, how do you get that way? You buy into this living, breathing document idea that a judge can just morph at will and that\u2019s the framework that we\u2019re caught in. That\u2019s the paradigm that we\u2019re caught in. Most Americans, sadly, have bought into this and if you think the Constitution is a living breathing document that can change depending on what mood the Supreme Court happens to be in that particular day, and you only need five justices for a majority vote, then we really don\u2019t have a Constitution. So until we get back to strict interpretation of the Constitution and demand that from our public official we\u2019re really living in a post constitutional republic and things like this Iran deal, even though they\u2019re repugnant to what the Constitution says, they become settled law. So it\u2019s just a very sad state of affairs. That\u2019s why we need more Christian lawyers out there; Nick Vancleave, I saw him in here somewhere, he\u2019s going to be studying to be a lawyer, and we need more Christians going into politics and we need more Christians teaching in the law schools, so we can get back to the foundations of America.\r\n\r\nShahram Hadian: If I could make a quick note on that, the lawyers themselves need to actually read the Bill of Rights and the Constitution. The problem is that in a lot of law schools when I talk to lawyers they barely studied the Constitution, what they study is case law. And that\u2019s what basically the courts have become. And case law is strictly prohibited within the Constitutional boundaries. That\u2019s why the seventh amendment to the Bill of Rights specifically addresses that every decision by every court in the United States is subject to the common law. But the problem was what common law is today is not what it was at our founding. Common law was predicated upon divine law or higher law. That\u2019s why we have the Ten Commandments. Remember those?\r\n\r\nAnd today we\u2019ve kicked them out and it\u2019s on case law, and that\u2019s exactly\u2026 I mean, when you look at Justice Antonin Scalia\u2019s dissent from the Obergefell decision that Andy\u2019s talking about, he basically said there\u2019s a judicial putsch, he used the word putsch which means a judicial overthrow. So the republic as we know, and I\u2019m so glad you\u2019re bringing this up, the republic as we know is gone because you have now tyranny, judicial tyranny, you have executive tyranny, and I was just talking to someone during the break, when I was running for Governor in 2011 I was telling people we\u2019re on the verge of a dictatorship. People thought I was nuts. And you have the legislative branch that should have the powers to hold both accountable and you have spineless, wimples people\u2026 like he says, it\u2019s the Republicans that didn\u2019t stop the Iran deal, they could have easily stopped the Iran deal and they didn\u2019t. This is why, we don\u2019t even know our history of what our\u2026 how many of us, we use the term democracy. We were never supposed to be a democracy.\r\n\r\nThere\u2019s a couple of questions that I got on the immigration issue again. One question was how aware are Muslims of the aspect of the Hijra, that aspect of migrating populating and segregating. If they\u2019re connected to the mosque, if the Muslim is devout enough to go to the mosque they\u2019re very well aware of the call of Hijra, meaning that when the call comes for there to be migration to other countries they\u2019re very well aware of that. Now you could argue again that well, what percentage of Muslims in America understand this. It depends on what numbers you look at. I will argue that over 50% of Muslims in America are fairly secular, fairly agnostic, but most of the people that are in these enclaves that get formed are refugees coming in. They\u2019re not the second or third generation Muslims that have been here and have been more westernized; a lot of them are coming in as refugees, or they\u2019re coming in with that cultural context and establishing their enclave and they know very well what they\u2019re supposed to do which is to not assimilate.\r\n\r\nThat\u2019s the biggest thing about migration, it isn\u2019t just that they migrate, because they\u2019re going to populate anyway, they\u2019re going to have lots of children anyway, but the biggest thing is that they\u2019re supposed to segregate themselves. And that\u2019s really where doctrine comes in and that\u2019s what\u2019s being promoted from the mosque. It\u2019s the mosque that would tell them listen, be careful not to integrate too much into the culture. Does that make sense? That\u2019s kind of a long-term strategy that we\u2019ve seen. And when you look at Europe, when you look at the fact that you have now\u2026 that was another question, was about Europe, let me see where that one was. There was a question about Europe, does Europe know how much in trouble it is?\r\n\r\nWell, let me address this. Texas seems to be high on the immigration replacement list, where will these immigrants be relocated, to what size groups of people. The problem is we don\u2019t know, we don\u2019t know, we don\u2019t know. The problem is, like in Idaho, when I was in Idaho we got pressure on the Governor\u2019s office to look into this. The Governor\u2019s office then called back and says that some of the State legislatures, we don\u2019t know, call your Congress people. We called the Congress people, we don\u2019t know, it\u2019s the State Department. We contacted the State Department they\u2019ll tell you we don\u2019t know, it\u2019s the United Nations, they\u2019re the ones that are picking the refugees, we\u2019re just tasked with trying to vet them before they come.\r\n\r\nSo the community, one of the reasons why some of these communities are up in arms, like in Twin Falls, Idaho, is because they have no clue, nor can they get information from the refugee center. In fact, in Twin Falls they did a public information request of the refugee center to look at their contract because the process has to work where these sponsoring agencies, these predominant\u2026 these nine major sponsoring agencies, they sign a contract with the federal government to sponsor the refugees coming in. And they can\u2019t operate unless there\u2019s a refugee center. Does that make sense? And the way it works is that the refugee center, they can only place refugees within a hundred miles of that refugee center. So like in Spokane right now World Relief is offering a refugee center. Well, World Relief isn\u2019t telling people that they\u2019re getting over 60% of their budget from federal grant money. So it\u2019s not Christian charity. And they\u2019re the ones who are placing refugees.\r\n\r\nWell, they signed the contract and they\u2019re not telling people who are coming in and how many. In Twin Falls they got notice that they\u2019re getting 300 Syrian refugees yet the refugee center refuses to release the information. When the public records request was done they got the notice back from the refugee center and I read the request and the response, and literally the refugee center said to them that we cannot reveal this information because it\u2019s a trade secret. You go WHAT? A trade secret? We can\u2019t find out who\u2019s coming into our community, where they\u2019re coming from? No. Even some law enforcement do not know that. So the answer to that question is can conservative areas expect refugees? Yes. Are you going to get much notice? No. That\u2019s the whole tactic, that\u2019s on purpose. You know why that\u2019s on purpose? Think about it; they don\u2019t want time for you to be able to mobilize a response. They don\u2019t you to have warning because they know that if there\u2019s time for warning the citizens may get together and actually resist it. And they don\u2019t want that to happen. That\u2019s intentional from the White House.\r\n\r\nAnd by the way, one of the things I forgot to mention earlier, the gal that Obama put at the helm of the Refugee Resettlement Program, is the former vice director of La Raza, anybody here in Texas know who La Raza is? That\u2019s the group, the race that believes in open borders, full amnesty, full benefits for illegals, let them be in the military, let them vote, on and on. That\u2019s who\u2019s heading up the Refugee Resettlement Program. And they have literally said, they call it the seeding of communities, that\u2019s what they\u2019re calling it. We\u2019re seeding communities of refugees fully expecting those refugees to seed and grow and take over that community.\r\n\r\nSo it\u2019s not an accident, it is intentional. And you have to understand that. So you have to put utmost pressure on your State legislature, that\u2019s what we\u2019re trying to do in Idaho, forget the feds, they\u2019re not going to\u2026 I mean, there\u2019s a bill that your Congressman Bayven has over here that\u2019s gotten twenty something signatures, but the Republicans in the Senate. But the Republicans in the Senate don\u2019t have the spine to stand for it. Other than Cruz, I don\u2019t know where Rand Paul stands on it. So your fight, I believe, is at the State and local level. Just like Mayor Van Dyne who passed that ordinance banning Sharia law, we have gotten eight states, or nine states I think it is now, where they\u2019ve passed the American Law [can't understand word] to ban foreign law, but I think that the solution is more at the local level. Really fighting it with your mayors, with your city council, county commissioners. But push pressure on your State Legislature, have them threaten to\u2026 listen, you and I know how this works, right? It\u2019s money, it\u2019s money, it\u2019s money. The moment the states stand up to the federal government the threat is money, we\u2019ll cut off your funding for this, we\u2019ll cut off your funding for that.\r\n\r\nWe need some state legislators and some governors to say to the federal government, go ahead, we could care less, cut off our funding, we\u2019re not going to do this anymore. [clapping] And so that pressure has to come from down up into your legislature.\r\n\r\nLet me tell a couple more. What can we expect with mosques; the mosques that\u2019s coming into your community. Well, if a mosque is coming into your community you can expect that it will be a recruiting center, you won\u2019t know about it. You can expect that it is a hub of activity. In fact, the Muslim Brotherhood has said according to the explanatory memorandum that the Islamic Center is the access, the central point of their plan for the community. There is their dawa going on, their evangelism, they\u2019re recruiting, they\u2019re staging for going to the next level. You\u2019re going to see increased traffic, a lot of times they try to put mosques in residential areas and if you guys have a chance, really push against that because if you find out there\u2019s a mosque coming into a residential area go and use ordinances that deal with sound, traffic, things like that to push them back out, because you will see that neighborhood change if a mosque comes in. Traffic patterns, sound patterns, a lot of Muslims will buy houses or rent around the mosque. And then the whole neighborhood shifts. So you really have to try to resist it as we can; if we had federal law enforcement that we could actually get some prosecution you could actually go after some of those mosques. But it is unfortunately where it\u2019s their hub and we have to try to pray against them.\r\n\r\nBy the way, I do believe in actually the power of prayer, right? So if you know there\u2019s a mosque coming in your area, get a prayer team together and start prayer walking that property. You believe in binding, right? Let\u2019s bind, let\u2019s just pray against this spirit and say Lord, if there\u2019s a way, we want to pray against the spirit of Islam in this neighborhood, in this community, I pray this mosque never comes to the light of day, I pray that there\u2019s financing problems, I pray that there are zoning problems. Can we pray that way? Are we allowed to pray that way? Those darn imprecatory prayers, right? And I\u2019ve had testimony where it\u2019s worked. There\u2019s been places where mosques have been standing still, it\u2019s just been an empty lot for two or three years because Christians have actually prayed and asked the Lord to not allow that to go there and their activity.\r\n\r\nLet me just take one more here, let\u2019s see. This is an easy one, what is a Muslim? Remember that I said that a Muslim is one who is surrendered to Islam. So Muslim is not a\u2026people say a racist, if you\u2019re against Muslims, that\u2019s idiotic, forgive me, right, because a Muslim is not a race. Does that make sense. A Muslim is a religion, because you have Muslims from all over the world. So a Muslim is one who is a submitted follower of Allah, who is submitted to Islam specifically.\r\n\r\nNow people are born into Islam because under Islamic, remember if you\u2019re born to a Muslim father you are a Muslim, not so to a Muslim mother, by the way. But if you\u2019re born to a Muslim father\u2026 that\u2019s why, by the way, I was talking, we were talking at dinner, the number one recruiting in America right now is in the prisons. Blacks are getting converted to Islam in the prisons, there\u2019s many reasons for that, spiritually, but also because the Muslim chaplains get way more carte blanche access than Christian chaplains are being given.\r\n\r\nNumber 2, its Hispanics in prison and the number three demographic for conversions in America are young white women on college campuses, for getting converted to Islam. A lot of times through dating, because under Islamic law the Muslim man can date and marry a non-Muslim women and the children will still be Muslim under Islamic law. It doesn\u2019t matter what the religion of the woman is, it matters what the religion of the man is. And I\u2019ve heard many, many horror stories.\r\n\r\nCan you explain the connection between Benghazi, the Brotherhood and our government? And did the Clintons play a role in the PLO? How much more can I say about the Clintons. It\u2019s a matter\u2026 as I said earlier, for me it\u2019s not a matter of politics on this issue, folks, it\u2019s a matter of criminality, it\u2019s a matter of lawlessness. It, to me, when I watch Hillary Clinton testify before Congress about Benghazi, claiming that it was a Muslim video, you remember what happened, right? It was the video that did it. When they fully knew, she lied to the family, they fully knew that it was an Islamic element, it wasn\u2019t spontaneous, and as I told you, there\u2019s direct evidence now that it was to cover up funding, whether guns and or money, to the so-called moderate rebels in Syria that is now ISIS. So we funded that but, you know, not only does she lie at the burying of the e-mails, classified mail, I mean, it\u2019s just incredible. To me, as I said, you feel like it\u2019s just a bizarre world we\u2019re living in. We have somebody that should be in prison or at least under arrest and under indictment by the FBI and she\u2019s going to be probably the nominee for the Democrat party. So that\u2019s how I feel about the Clintons.\r\n\r\nWe don\u2019t think that the Muslim Brotherhood had a direct connection with Benghazi specifically because a lot of the evidence is pointing out to al-Qaeda, however, I\u2019ve talked to some reporters who thought Iran may have played a role in it because the El Kutz Division of Iran, that\u2019s Hezbollah, they\u2019re very sophisticated, they have their hand in many things, including in Venezuela, in Mexico, and working with the cartels I mentioned earlier. But there\u2019s no doubt that our government had a cover-up in that and that\u2019s something that has to come to the light of day at some point, at some way, because it is criminal. The blood of four people there and the blood of all those people. I think that\u2019s it for me.\r\n\r\nAndy Woods: I\u2019ll be real quick, I promise. This one: should we hate Muslims when the Bible says to love your brother? And the answer of course is absolutely 100% no, we don\u2019t hate Muslims, we hate Islam which is enslaving people. And I fully understand the temptation to transfer hate of a theology or a doctrine to a person; we all struggle with that. If you struggle with that as we all sometimes do, I would really challenge you to read the book of Jonah a couple of times, because that\u2019s really what the whole book is about. You know, Jonah is mad at God because He dared to have grace to the Assyrians and he pouts and so forth and it\u2019s supposed to be a humorous book to show us how silly we can get. And sometimes I have been guilty of getting my kingdoms confused. You know, my kingdom ultimately is heaven and I love America and if you\u2019d cut me open I\u2019d bleed red, white and blue probably. But ultimately I can\u2019t become so patriotic, you know, zeal for patriotic things that I forget that Muslims are souls for whom Christ died and so we need to keep that straight as we all understand.\r\n\r\nHere is a wonderful question: I\u2019m a single person who hopes to one day have children. I want to enroll them in public school since I enjoyed it very much. After hearing about the corruption of public schools do you think it would be unwise to do that? My wife and I have kind of gone thru and odyssey on this. I\u2019m a product of public schools; my wife went to some Christian school and some public school. But the fact of the matter is both of us prayerfully came to the conclusion that what\u2019s being done in public schools today is totally different than what the two of us faced in the 80\u2019s. And a couple of things really convicted us. One was the book of Deuteronomy, chapter 6 and verse 4, which is the Hebrew shema, which in Hebrew means listen. And it\u2019s talking there in those verses, verse 4, or 5, 6, 7, about train up your own children.\r\n\r\n[Deuteronomy 6:4-7, \u201cHear, O Israel! The LORD is one God, the LORD is one! [5] You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might. [6] These words, which I am commanding you today, shall be on your heart. [7] You shall teach them diligently to your sons and shall talk of them when you sit in your house and when you walk by the way and when you lie down and when you rise up.\u201d]\r\n\r\nYou know, when you walk along the way, when you rise up, when you lie down, it\u2019s this idea that you\u2019re with them, teaching them spiritual things every moment of the day. And that is a job that God gave to parents. And it\u2019s not a job you can outsource. [clapping] And a couple of things really shook us, the two of us as a couple. In all honesty the first thing that really shook us up was the re-election of our current President. I, in my wildest dreams never thought Obama would get re-elected. I thought he could get elected because anybody can be fooled once, right? Remember Jimmy Carter and all of that kind of stuff. And then the country corrected it. And I honestly thought into that election that the same thing was going to happen, there was going to be a correction. And to see Obama not only get elected but re-elected was really something that was very unsettling for me. And I started thinking very carefully that there\u2019s something going on in these schools where kids spend most of their time, altering their worldview.\r\n\r\nAnd then the second thing that happened, and I think the gentleman over here brought a copy of it, it\u2019s the\u2026 and I encourage everybody to watch this video, it\u2019s a video called The Agenda, by Curtis Bowers, and there\u2019s a brand new one that just came out, called Agenda 2 and it documents the shift in our public schools and how public schools are being used strategically by the adversary to alter the worldview of our children.\r\n\r\nAnd so those two things have pushed us as a couple in the direction of home schooling, and I see the sweat my wife, who bears most of that burden, goes through, I know it\u2019s a difficult choice to make but in all honesty, now that we\u2019re into the third grade with our daughter I can it\u2019s one of the single best things we\u2019ve ever done as a couple and it\u2019s paid massive, massive dividends. And I realize that everybody is in a different situation economically, something may work for us but not you, but really think about the direction of our country. Deuteronomy 6:4-7 and what these public schools do to children in terms of changing their worldview. [Deuteronomy 6:4-7, \u201cHear, O Israel! The LORD is one God, the LORD is one! [5] You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all you might. [6] These words, which I am commanding you today, shall be on your heart. [7] You shall teach them diligently to your sons and shall talk of them when you sit in your house and when you walk by the way and when you lie down and when you rise up\u201d]\r\n\r\nAnd are you willing to stand before God where God says I gave you the most precious thing to be a steward of that I could possibly give, the mind of your own children, that\u2019s your responsibility. What did you do with that?\r\n\r\nAnd then one last question, and with this we\u2019re finished. How are Christians to deal with the refugee crisis in light of, and it quotes a verse here from the Sermon on the Mount, love your enemy, those who persecute you, that kind of thing. What we\u2019re seeing today\u2026 you know when I was growing up the big deal was the religious right, and today what we\u2019re seeing is the religious left. I would say the religious left is just as influential, if not more influential, than the religious right was. The religious right was people that took Bible verses to support a right wing agenda and the religious left is a group of people that take Bible verses to support a left wing agenda. And you know you\u2019re dealing with the religious left because they\u2019re always quoting the Sermon on the Mount and applying that to government.\r\n\r\nWell listen, the Sermon on the Mount deals with one man\u2019s relationship to another. That\u2019s what all of that stuff about blessed are the peacemakers, turn the other check, is dealing with. It\u2019s not talking about the relationship between government and humanity. And so they\u2019re using the wrong Bible verses. If you want to understand our relationship to government you look at other passages like Romans 13, and this particular questions talks about the refugee crisis. If you want to understand God\u2019s mind on the subject of the nation\u2019s state you don\u2019t go to the Sermon on the Mount, you go to Genesis 11 where God intentionally disrupted world government at the tower of Babel through the confounding of the various languages. And what that brought into existence was the idea of different ethnicities, cultures, nations, countries.\r\n\r\nAnd the reason God did it that way is because absolute power corrupts and absolute power corrupts what? absolutely! So what God did is He divided power up amongst these different nations, which act as a check and balance on each other. And given man\u2019s corrupted nation that check and balance system is the only thing that prevents mad men from gaining control over the whole world. And as imperfect as the American system of government is that\u2019s one of the things that\u2019s kept us afloat for the last 200 plus years, is our founders were smart enough, baaed (I believe) on their study of the Bible and history to divide political power up. So God is pro nation state, He is anti globalism.\r\n\r\nThe antichrist is pro globalism, Satan is pro globalism, and Satan\u2019s agenda is really to recreate the tower of Babel, where he wants to rule over one man and one man will rule over the planet just like the devil was ruling over Nimrod, the builder at the tower of Babel. Nimrod in Hebrew actually means revolt or rebellion. Satan would rule over him and he would rule over the world and remember what God said there in Genesis 11, I think it\u2019s around verse 4, if this arrangement continues nothing will be impossible for them. [Genesis 11:4, \u201cThey said, \u2018Come, let us build for ourselves a tower whose top will reach into heaven, and let us make for ourselves a name, otherwise we will be scattered abroad over the face of the whole earth.\u2019 [5] The LORD came down to see the city and the tower which the sons of men had built. [6] The LORD said, \u2018Behold, they are one people, and they all have the same language. And this is what they began to do, and now nothing which they purpose to do will be impossible for them.\u201d]\r\n\r\nAnd it\u2019s not talking about the possibility for good, it\u2019s talking about the possibility for evil. So God disrupted the process by decentralizing power. So when you get into this subject of nations you have to understand that God is the one that worked in history to create different nations as a check and balance on man\u2019s sin nature and his desire to get control of everything, because if one nation goes astray then other nations can arise and oppose the evil in that one nation. So there\u2019s a built-in sort of check and balance system. And given that, and I\u2019m getting close to wrapping up here, but given that fact there are three things you have to have for a nation. Number 1, you have to have a common language. Number 2, you have to have a common culture. And Number 3, you have to have borders. You deny any of those three you don\u2019t have a nation any more. And so what is being challenged with this refugee issues, things that Shahram has been bringing up, is those three basic principles are being attacked over and over and over again. And I look at it as a direct assault on the nation-state.\r\n\r\nSo I\u2019m not going to the Sermon on the Mount to develop my doctrine of government, I\u2019m going to other passages and I\u2019ve tried to explain where that philosophy comes from. You know, we\u2019ve got to start looking at the right passages to formulate the right thoughts on things.\r\n\r\nShahram Hadian: [can't understand word] really quick too, because I\u2019ve been asked this question because I\u2019ve been dealing with the refugee situation so much recently and the idea of asylum, the idea of a place of refuge, we could argue that God did establish in the Old Testament the idea that there would be places of refuge. However, as Andy said, when you have a lawless system\u2026 so personally I\u2019m not against the idea of legitimate asylum, that a nation would be compassionate to have a system in place where people that are being persecuted and they\u2019re fleeing persecution, would come in a legitimate manner to seek a situation of refuge. That\u2019s not what this is. This is an invasion. Let\u2019s be honest about what this is. Remember I said to you over 75% of the people coming into Europe now are young angry men.\r\n\r\nThis is not a refuge, this is not about compassion. This is an invasion and that\u2019s so well said, what he just said about those three conditions. I never thought about it that way, that\u2019s excellent. So we have to understand and my challenge to my brothers and sisters in Christ, particularly the liberal ones, is then why are you not upset about the fact that Christians are not being let into the country. If you\u2019re so upset about the Muslims and want me to have compassion about the onslaught of Muslims being dumped in, in an illegal manner, in a manner that has no accountability, with no track of money, no vetting process, it\u2019s a national security threat, we have no borders, we have no laws in place, then why are we not concerned about our brothers and sisters in Christ.\r\n\r\nYou can\u2019t have it both ways, right? You can\u2019t have selective compassion, you don\u2019t just apply compassion to one group and not the other. If you\u2019re going to use that argument, and I a hundred percent agree with Andy as well as far as understanding civil authority. We, as Christians, cannot operate in lawlessness; you can\u2019t say let\u2019s just open the door and let everybody in. My question to those Christians would be would you open the doors to your house and say I\u2019m just going to let anybody that comes off the street into my house, without a background check, without knowing who they are, without knowing if they have a disease or not, without knowing if they\u2019re a criminal or not, and I\u2019m just going to trust my family into their hands. Would that make any sense?\r\n\r\nYet that\u2019s exactly what we\u2019re doing with our nation and with these communities\u2014let\u2019s welcome them all in and we\u2019ll figure it out later. Please let us not be na\u00efve enough to think that\u2019s what the intention of this government is. It is to collapse the system. Why is Merkel in Germany allowing two million Muslim refugees into Germany? That\u2019s suicide for Germany. One of the questions, the last question we had here was is it true that some of these European countries are revolting? Yes, it\u2019s true. As I said, Norway deporting people, Hungary saying hey, we\u2019re a Christian nation, we\u2019re closing our borders. There are Europeans now that are scrambling, saying how can we defend ourselves? Folks, they\u2019re being assaulted, attacked, raped, murdered.\r\n\r\nAnd can I bring one more verse up, I appreciate Andy\u2019s thoughtful answer about the whole question of education, and my wife and I came to the same conclusion three years ago, to home school our children and it\u2019s been very challenging at times, but it\u2019s been incredibly rewarding. My kids travel with us sometimes, we have so much time together. But the Lord actually brought another verse, interestingly enough to me, to convict me and my wife, and it\u2019s a verse that a lot of times pastors will use to justify us as Christians going along with whatever government does, no matter what they do. It\u2019s Luke 20, talking about rendering unto Caesar. I\u2019ve had so many pastors who tell me, well, Jesus says render unto Caesar that which is to be returned unto Caesar, right? The word there in the Greek, render, implies that which is returned, so something was given to you and you\u2019re returning back, it doesn\u2019t belong to you. And I always ask the same pastor, pastor, what\u2019s the second half of the verse? And then return unto God or render unto God that which belongs to God. [Mark 12:17, \u201cAnd Jesus said to them, \u2018Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar\u2019s and to God the things that are God\u2019s.\u2019\u201d]\r\n\r\nSo we have to ask certain questions. For example, does your religious expression, your religious worship belong to Caesar or belong to God. Some of you aren\u2019t sure about that, take your time. God, right, and not only because the first amendment says so, it\u2019s because inherently God commands us to worship Him. Right. If we love Him we obey His commands and one of His commands is to.. the great and foremost command is to \u201cLove the LORD your God with all your heart and mind and soul and strength.\u201d [Mark 12:30, AND YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND, AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH..\u201d]\r\n\r\nNumber 2, what about your conscience? Does that belong to Caesar or to God? What about your marriage? So what the Supreme Court did, not only was it unconstitutional, it was against the very laws of nature and nature\u2019s God, which is espoused in the Declaration of Independence which birthed this nation, the aspect of standing on the higher law of God. You see, government has no authority to step into the jurisdiction that God has said don\u2019t touch it. And the moment we do that everything gets messed up and you have tyranny and you have abuse, not just the rights of the people but of God Himself.\r\n\r\nAnd lastly, I ask you, and this is where we got convicted, do your children belong to government or to God? So if the Lord has given me my children to steward, over my dead body am I going to let the government indoctrinate them, personally speaking folks, this is my personal conviction [clapping] and so I know, like Andy said, there are single moms, there are people that work, it\u2019s a difficult situation, but all I can encourage you is pray and ask the Lord, if you have children, grandchildren, if you have to have them in public school you need to have a major support system around them; you need to be on them every day to find out what they\u2019re being indoctrinated in, because you know what, right now the biggest challenge in schools are, beside all the indoctrination into the homosexuality and all the transgender stuff. One of the things I taught at church was the fact that under common core they\u2019re using the gingerbread man to teach trans fluidity, sexual fluidity, they use the mind of the ginger\u2026 by the way, is it the gingerbread man, it\u2019s the gingerbread person, and they\u2019re teaching kids that, you know, as far as your intellect there is no absolutes, everything\u2019s fluid, as far as your sexual identity there are no absolutes, everything is fluid. That\u2019s the new term by the way, you guys know that, right? It\u2019s trans fluid, it\u2019s not just transgender any more, it\u2019s now trans fluid.\r\n\r\nSo, you know, I\u2019m a boy, I\u2019m a girl, today I feel like a boy, tomorrow I feel like a girl, and our government is now saying to the public schools, to the parks, to us as teachers we don\u2019t care about the rights of your children, because some kid wants to come into the girls locker room and believes that they\u2019re a girl on that day, we need to fully accommodate them. In the city of Spokane, we just had this happen last year at the City Council and we went in and testified and saying listen, you know that predators, sexual predators, pedophiles are going to jump on this. Oh, you guys ae so bigoted and backward, and that\u2019s what we got from the city council. That\u2019s what you kids are going to be facing in school.\r\n\r\nSo, like Andy is saying, what we see in common core, what we see in the education system, what we see in these things it is no longer just, you know, neutrality, it is a blatant mindset to bring everybody under one way of thinking. And that\u2019s why you\u2019re seeing such a challenge with the next generation and with that, you know, I think that it\u2019s a very tough choice. It\u2019s very\u2026 and I know, please hear my heart on this, it\u2019s a very personal choice and I know that, but I think it\u2019s something that we really need to pray about and the church needs to pray about, of how to support families, because the upbringing education is foremost. And with that I will turn my time over to you and if you guys, if you have questions, more questions tomorrow we\u2019ll do our best to be at the table a little bit early and we hope you can come back and join us and our card is there.\r\n\r\nYes ma\u2019am. [someone says something, can\u2019t hear] Oh, it wasn\u2019t a CD, it was a tape, it was actually a sermon from a church, the pastor had done a few part series and one part was on why Jesus Christ was crucified, and then the other part was on the need for the resurrection; what was the impact of the resurrection and very powerful, but it was a tape from that church that was given to me.\r\n\r\nAndy Woods: I\u2019ve heard also from two Cuban refugees the story that Fidel Castro, when he took over Cuba, targeted the schools and one of his liaisons or henchmen would go into the school and say okay, kids, everybody bow your heads and pray to God for ice cream. And then they\u2019d open their eyes and there\u2019d be no ice cream, and then this same, I guess teacher, would say okay, now bow your heads and pray to Fidel for ice cream, and the ice cream truck shows up. See, that shows you the demonic, wicked targeting of the youth through compulsory education, what it can do. And this is right out of Fidel Castro\u2019s blueprint. And we just have to become more discerning as Christians and start seeing things for what they are. And I just kind of submit that to you for your consideration. Those are very saddening story that shook me up when I heard it from two different individuals.\r\n\r\nWell, you guys have been a phenomenal congregation and Shahram has been a phenomenal speaker, let\u2019s give him one more round of applause.\r\n\r\nShahram: thank you\u2026 thank you. The Lord gets the credit.\r\n\r\nAndy Woods: And I hope you can come back at 9:45 a.m. where we\u2019re going to get two more sessions.\r\n\r\nShahram: I thought tonight we were supposed to be on Persian time, it\u2019s Saturday night, it\u2019s only 10:00 o\u2019clock, you guys are leaving? [laughter]\r\n\r\nGod bless!","series_sermon_number":""},"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t\n\t\n\t\n\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t